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	<title>Comments on: HPC Server 2008 job startup experiences</title>
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		<title>By: Rich Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing I thought was &quot;Not In My Datacenter!!! What a farce, Windows HPC, ya not!&quot; Then I got to thinking, am I really so pig headed and stubborn that I can&#039;t entertain the idea of a different OS besides a unix flavor in HPC? I&#039;m not all agains Window$. Heck, I have family members that work for Microsoft, can you spell employee discount?! But the idea of windows bloatware being an effective HPC variant? I&#039;m still not too sure about it.

I decided to watch the video, which wasn&#039;t all that exciting really. But then I started poking around and checked out the interview with Ryan Waite. (I linked it here, hope you don&#039;t mind John.)

http://soapbox.msn.com/video.aspx?showPlaylist=true&amp;playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:0d50ce6d-8767-4279-89c5-b1866fc3ecb8

One of the things I&#039;ve found about Microsoft, whether you love em or hate em, you have to admit, they hire some pretty bright folks. It&#039;s hard to condemn a project like Compute Cluster 2008 after listening to Ryan talk about the developement process. It really sounds like they did a good job of looking at the HPC market and how it currently works. He even mentions people being almost religious in their MPI stack choice. Hmmm... Anyone remember a SCALI discussion here not too long ago? :-)

Also sounds like they did a lot of collaboration with Argon National Labs. More bright folks down there. 

So, in short, ya to late now, I know. I&#039;m not sold on the idea of Windows Compute Cluster, however I&#039;d be interested in seeing more. Might be a good thing, might not. 

With a final thought. Microsoft has a TON of money to throw at any project they find interesting. Would that be a bad thing for HPC? It may be a windows variant, but it&#039;s money and talent added to the HPC arena.

I&#039;ll shut up now. 
Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing I thought was &#8220;Not In My Datacenter!!! What a farce, Windows HPC, ya not!&#8221; Then I got to thinking, am I really so pig headed and stubborn that I can&#8217;t entertain the idea of a different OS besides a unix flavor in HPC? I&#8217;m not all agains Window$. Heck, I have family members that work for Microsoft, can you spell employee discount?! But the idea of windows bloatware being an effective HPC variant? I&#8217;m still not too sure about it.</p>
<p>I decided to watch the video, which wasn&#8217;t all that exciting really. But then I started poking around and checked out the interview with Ryan Waite. (I linked it here, hope you don&#8217;t mind John.)</p>
<p><a href="http://soapbox.msn.com/video.aspx?showPlaylist=true&#038;playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:0d50ce6d-8767-4279-89c5-b1866fc3ecb8" rel="nofollow">http://soapbox.msn.com/video.aspx?showPlaylist=true&#038;playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:0d50ce6d-8767-4279-89c5-b1866fc3ecb8</a></p>
<p>One of the things I&#8217;ve found about Microsoft, whether you love em or hate em, you have to admit, they hire some pretty bright folks. It&#8217;s hard to condemn a project like Compute Cluster 2008 after listening to Ryan talk about the developement process. It really sounds like they did a good job of looking at the HPC market and how it currently works. He even mentions people being almost religious in their MPI stack choice. Hmmm&#8230; Anyone remember a SCALI discussion here not too long ago? <img src='http://insidehpc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also sounds like they did a lot of collaboration with Argon National Labs. More bright folks down there. </p>
<p>So, in short, ya to late now, I know. I&#8217;m not sold on the idea of Windows Compute Cluster, however I&#8217;d be interested in seeing more. Might be a good thing, might not. </p>
<p>With a final thought. Microsoft has a TON of money to throw at any project they find interesting. Would that be a bad thing for HPC? It may be a windows variant, but it&#8217;s money and talent added to the HPC arena.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll shut up now.<br />
Rich</p>
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