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	<title>Comments on: UCF Lands Its First Supercomputer</title>
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		<title>By: John Leidel</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2008/05/13/ucf-lands-its-first-supercomputer/#comment-57147</link>
		<dc:creator>John Leidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, the quoted article was a bit incorrect regarding the system statistics.  I went out and found their website and have subsequently corrected my post.  Their website is also linked within the post if you&#039;re interested in contacting the folks at UCF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, the quoted article was a bit incorrect regarding the system statistics.  I went out and found their website and have subsequently corrected my post.  Their website is also linked within the post if you&#8217;re interested in contacting the folks at UCF.</p>
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		<title>By: John Leidel</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2008/05/13/ucf-lands-its-first-supercomputer/#comment-57144</link>
		<dc:creator>John Leidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll see what I can dig up :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll see what I can dig up <img src='http://insidehpc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Whoops!  I wrote so much, it chopped my comment... ]

... (for) less than $1M lately, 2 TF for $2.6M raises eyebrows.)

Those are my guesses.. sorry for babbling.  I don&#039;t suppose you&#039;ll find out more from the UCF people and post an update?  :-)

Cheers,
  - Brian, who obviously has too much free time today</description>
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<p>&#8230; (for) less than $1M lately, 2 TF for $2.6M raises eyebrows.)</p>
<p>Those are my guesses.. sorry for babbling.  I don&#8217;t suppose you&#8217;ll find out more from the UCF people and post an update?  <img src='http://insidehpc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
  &#8211; Brian, who obviously has too much free time today</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to know more about this system... 192 processors and 20TB of RAM.  If you consider each &#039;processor&#039; to be a core from an Intel Xeon operating at 2.667 Ghz, that&#039;s 2TF (peak) right there.  In fact, I don&#039;t think it can be POWER unless they&#039;re going with POWER5, but I can&#039;t see IBM wanting to sell that when they&#039;ve got POWER6 systems to market.  POWER6, even at the &#039;slow&#039; 4.2 Ghz speed, gives over 16GF/core, which would mean that the 2.0 TF is too low, providing they&#039;re speaking about peak.

So, assuming it IS an Intel Xeon (or conceivably an AMD system), that means they&#039;re packing more than 100GB per core to get that 20TB total.  Intel has some dual-core chips still, so let&#039;s use those, and we&#039;ve got 48 nodes with 4 cores per node and 416+ GB per node.  Let&#039;s say some (or all) of those nodes have 512GB, and that means that we&#039;re talking 16 GB DIMMs x 32 slots per motherboard.  But I don&#039;t think 16 GB DIMMs exist yet, so what&#039;s IBM doing?  

(Ok, another idea could be using 2.8 Ghz dual-core Opterons, counting each processor AS a processor, and giving 2.15 TF of performance, meaning a more manageable 50+ GB/core, and putting only 128GB on each system.  That sounds more sensible from an &#039;OK, we can do it&#039; perspective, but I&#039;m still surprised at the memory/compute ratio.  Having seen advertisements for 10TF for </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to know more about this system&#8230; 192 processors and 20TB of RAM.  If you consider each &#8216;processor&#8217; to be a core from an Intel Xeon operating at 2.667 Ghz, that&#8217;s 2TF (peak) right there.  In fact, I don&#8217;t think it can be POWER unless they&#8217;re going with POWER5, but I can&#8217;t see IBM wanting to sell that when they&#8217;ve got POWER6 systems to market.  POWER6, even at the &#8216;slow&#8217; 4.2 Ghz speed, gives over 16GF/core, which would mean that the 2.0 TF is too low, providing they&#8217;re speaking about peak.</p>
<p>So, assuming it IS an Intel Xeon (or conceivably an AMD system), that means they&#8217;re packing more than 100GB per core to get that 20TB total.  Intel has some dual-core chips still, so let&#8217;s use those, and we&#8217;ve got 48 nodes with 4 cores per node and 416+ GB per node.  Let&#8217;s say some (or all) of those nodes have 512GB, and that means that we&#8217;re talking 16 GB DIMMs x 32 slots per motherboard.  But I don&#8217;t think 16 GB DIMMs exist yet, so what&#8217;s IBM doing?  </p>
<p>(Ok, another idea could be using 2.8 Ghz dual-core Opterons, counting each processor AS a processor, and giving 2.15 TF of performance, meaning a more manageable 50+ GB/core, and putting only 128GB on each system.  That sounds more sensible from an &#8216;OK, we can do it&#8217; perspective, but I&#8217;m still surprised at the memory/compute ratio.  Having seen advertisements for 10TF for</p>
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