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	<title>Comments on: NY sinks more money into HPC despite troubled past</title>
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		<title>By: John West</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2008/09/26/ny-sinks-more-money-into-hpc-despite-troubled-past/#comment-116121</link>
		<dc:creator>John West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don - fair enough. Thanks for the added insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don &#8211; fair enough. Thanks for the added insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2008/09/26/ny-sinks-more-money-into-hpc-despite-troubled-past/#comment-116088</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am familiar with the project, and I can assure you that ARIS has nothing to do with HPC.  The article you refer to does not reference any source with respect to the project&#039;s HPC nature, and your quote was from the article, not from anyone connected with ARIS or the NYC DOE.

Brian Bonenfant accurately described ARIS&#039;s nature.  The HPC angle was picked up on by people who didn&#039;t know what they were talking about, and repeated from there.  Please don&#039;t perpetuate the mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am familiar with the project, and I can assure you that ARIS has nothing to do with HPC.  The article you refer to does not reference any source with respect to the project&#8217;s HPC nature, and your quote was from the article, not from anyone connected with ARIS or the NYC DOE.</p>
<p>Brian Bonenfant accurately described ARIS&#8217;s nature.  The HPC angle was picked up on by people who didn&#8217;t know what they were talking about, and repeated from there.  Please don&#8217;t perpetuate the mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: John West</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2008/09/26/ny-sinks-more-money-into-hpc-despite-troubled-past/#comment-98999</link>
		<dc:creator>John West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Brian, I am talking about ARIS. The ARIS system was covered, both by IBM and the state of NY, as an HPC investment. The original announcement (at http://www.supercomputingonline.com/article.php?sid=13172) included the following text:

&quot;In order to measure how well public school students are learning, the New York City will spend $80 million on a supercomputer designed to analyze the performance of the city’s 1.1 million school kids. Mayor Bloomberg said the cost is worth it.&quot;

And the rest of that story, including other parts of the announcement and subsequent reporting, continue to tap on the HPC drum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Brian, I am talking about ARIS. The ARIS system was covered, both by IBM and the state of NY, as an HPC investment. The original announcement (at <a href="http://www.supercomputingonline.com/article.php?sid=13172" rel="nofollow">http://www.supercomputingonline.com/article.php?sid=13172</a>) included the following text:</p>
<p>&#8220;In order to measure how well public school students are learning, the New York City will spend $80 million on a supercomputer designed to analyze the performance of the city’s 1.1 million school kids. Mayor Bloomberg said the cost is worth it.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the rest of that story, including other parts of the announcement and subsequent reporting, continue to tap on the HPC drum.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bonenfant</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2008/09/26/ny-sinks-more-money-into-hpc-despite-troubled-past/#comment-98905</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bonenfant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the $80Million investment in the &quot;ARIS - Achievement Reporting and Innovation System&quot; was an HPC investment. The system is a web based system for managing student records. 

Perhaps you are confusing that with the equally substantial investment in NY Blue, a large IBM Bluegene system hosted at Brookhaven National Lab and funded mainly by the state of NY. 

It would be a shame for people to get the impression that NY Blue was a disaster if in fact you are talking about the ARIS system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the $80Million investment in the &#8220;ARIS &#8211; Achievement Reporting and Innovation System&#8221; was an HPC investment. The system is a web based system for managing student records. </p>
<p>Perhaps you are confusing that with the equally substantial investment in NY Blue, a large IBM Bluegene system hosted at Brookhaven National Lab and funded mainly by the state of NY. </p>
<p>It would be a shame for people to get the impression that NY Blue was a disaster if in fact you are talking about the ARIS system.</p>
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