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	<title>Comments on: Istanbul and Nehalem repeat death match in the STREAM arena</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Hahn</dc:creator>
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		<description>as usual, intel and amd are trying to stay out of step with each other, so each has some advantage to crow about.  overall, intel dominates the crow-ables, which isn&#039;t really surprising.  but amd can crow about more cores and (as far as we know) better SMP scalability.  have there been any reports of 4 or 8-socket nehalem boxes?  IMO, much of the point of istanbul is actually the numa improvement, which applies more to &gt; 2-socket boxes.

in the end, intel is showing the advantages of more/faster ram channels, but also paying the price penalty.  it&#039;ll be interesting to see when amd chooses to release ddr3 for opterons - obviously there are some codes where the relatively low BW is hurting them.  it&#039;s a bit hard to understand why they&#039;re waiting, since time only lets the impression of intel&#039;s superiority solidify further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as usual, intel and amd are trying to stay out of step with each other, so each has some advantage to crow about.  overall, intel dominates the crow-ables, which isn&#8217;t really surprising.  but amd can crow about more cores and (as far as we know) better SMP scalability.  have there been any reports of 4 or 8-socket nehalem boxes?  IMO, much of the point of istanbul is actually the numa improvement, which applies more to &gt; 2-socket boxes.</p>
<p>in the end, intel is showing the advantages of more/faster ram channels, but also paying the price penalty.  it&#8217;ll be interesting to see when amd chooses to release ddr3 for opterons &#8211; obviously there are some codes where the relatively low BW is hurting them.  it&#8217;s a bit hard to understand why they&#8217;re waiting, since time only lets the impression of intel&#8217;s superiority solidify further.</p>
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