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	<title>Comments on: Patterson says erasing Tether&#8217;s DARPA legacy vital to Nation&#8217;s future IT leadership</title>
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		<title>By: Koonin trots out language of crisis when what we need is focused thought on the real problem &#124; insideHPC.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koonin trots out language of crisis when what we need is focused thought on the real problem &#124; insideHPC.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and &#8220;staggering consequences&#8221; are not helpful in this context. As I&#8217;ve written before, it is a useful exercise to read the major blue ribbon HPC and IT reports that have been written [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and &#8220;staggering consequences&#8221; are not helpful in this context. As I&#8217;ve written before, it is a useful exercise to read the major blue ribbon HPC and IT reports that have been written [...]</p>
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		<title>By: skip</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2009/11/04/patterson-says-erasing-tethers-darpa-legacy-vital-to-nations-future/#comment-190367</link>
		<dc:creator>skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s certainly one opinion - but not one that I believe is shared by a great many people in the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s certainly one opinion &#8211; but not one that I believe is shared by a great many people in the community.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2009/11/04/patterson-says-erasing-tethers-darpa-legacy-vital-to-nations-future/#comment-190355</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally, I agree with your assessment, but this just does not fly.

The article in HBR is so remarkably biased and opinionated, that it borders on inflamatory.  No numbers.  No data.  It uses the tired common approach of marrying unpoplular political figures to the problem to rally people behind it.  Academics have not lost DARPA funding to companies.  

Now it is well understood that DARPA has emphasized near-term &quot;research&quot; over more exotic, distant goals.  However, we are also at a time where tremendous gains in our understanding of new science and our ability to engineer solutions have made rapid breakthroughs possible.  

Read over the current set of BAAs and see for yourself that the portfolio includes.

The home runs DARPA hit were not understood as homeruns in the first few years, only in hindsight.  Yet all of the criticism of Tether seems to neglect that fact.  

What surprises me most are the claims that DARPA dropped the ball on parallel computing, especially in light of multicore processors.  Really?  All of the readers should take time to review what DARPA was funding five years ago and then try to make the same claim.

Just look at how fast industry is moving to address this parallel compute problem.  Why should DARPA even bother paying for this now?  The need is well understood and actively being pursued today.  Now I am all for spending more in bring post-exascale work closer to today.  This is the scale of project DARPA should fund.  Not projects that address todays difficulty in programming parallel.  

This article was written to gain support for increased funding. 

I am disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, I agree with your assessment, but this just does not fly.</p>
<p>The article in HBR is so remarkably biased and opinionated, that it borders on inflamatory.  No numbers.  No data.  It uses the tired common approach of marrying unpoplular political figures to the problem to rally people behind it.  Academics have not lost DARPA funding to companies.  </p>
<p>Now it is well understood that DARPA has emphasized near-term &#8220;research&#8221; over more exotic, distant goals.  However, we are also at a time where tremendous gains in our understanding of new science and our ability to engineer solutions have made rapid breakthroughs possible.  </p>
<p>Read over the current set of BAAs and see for yourself that the portfolio includes.</p>
<p>The home runs DARPA hit were not understood as homeruns in the first few years, only in hindsight.  Yet all of the criticism of Tether seems to neglect that fact.  </p>
<p>What surprises me most are the claims that DARPA dropped the ball on parallel computing, especially in light of multicore processors.  Really?  All of the readers should take time to review what DARPA was funding five years ago and then try to make the same claim.</p>
<p>Just look at how fast industry is moving to address this parallel compute problem.  Why should DARPA even bother paying for this now?  The need is well understood and actively being pursued today.  Now I am all for spending more in bring post-exascale work closer to today.  This is the scale of project DARPA should fund.  Not projects that address todays difficulty in programming parallel.  </p>
<p>This article was written to gain support for increased funding. </p>
<p>I am disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: skip</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2009/11/04/patterson-says-erasing-tethers-darpa-legacy-vital-to-nations-future/#comment-190320</link>
		<dc:creator>skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard many companies describe the &quot;risk outweighs the reward&quot; attitude you have covered in this article - and they have chosen to avoid going down what should be a spirited, innovative path of discovery.  This article rings so true - as what a number of us see as short-sighted, uninformed thinking with a lack of real understanding of what it takes to advance such critical computing technology.

Thanks for raising this topic.  We can only hope things will change for the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard many companies describe the &#8220;risk outweighs the reward&#8221; attitude you have covered in this article &#8211; and they have chosen to avoid going down what should be a spirited, innovative path of discovery.  This article rings so true &#8211; as what a number of us see as short-sighted, uninformed thinking with a lack of real understanding of what it takes to advance such critical computing technology.</p>
<p>Thanks for raising this topic.  We can only hope things will change for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: John Leidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Leidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I fundamentally agree with your assessment.  We&#039;ve been stuck on &quot;IT&quot; as the pinnacle of all technological barriers for the past thirty years.  &quot;Information Technology&quot; has become to envelope such a myriad of industries and technologies that it has lot much of its meaning.  Are we speaking about computing platforms, software paradigms, programming languages [which is fundamentally different from a software paradigm], networking [long haul and short distance] or storage?  Wait, all of the above!?  No single government agency is willing to fund projects in &quot;IT.&quot;

David&#039;s reference to the DARPA HPCS program is very strategic in its nature.  DARPA is currently working on the follow on for the HPCS program, deemed the Ubiquitous High Performance Computing program, or UHPC.  Indeed, Cray, Sun and IBM were big players in its predecessor.  However, each prime contracting vendor had a myriad of national labs and university partners for the program.  With the exception of IBM Deep Computing, *most* vendors employ engineers skilled in the craft of taking great ideas and turning them into supportable products.  They don&#039;t generally employ a large workforce of engineers doing pure R&amp;D.  Enter academia.  In order for these DARPA programs to be wholly successful, the vendor primes *need* the wild thinking often found in universities and national labs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I fundamentally agree with your assessment.  We&#8217;ve been stuck on &#8220;IT&#8221; as the pinnacle of all technological barriers for the past thirty years.  &#8220;Information Technology&#8221; has become to envelope such a myriad of industries and technologies that it has lot much of its meaning.  Are we speaking about computing platforms, software paradigms, programming languages [which is fundamentally different from a software paradigm], networking [long haul and short distance] or storage?  Wait, all of the above!?  No single government agency is willing to fund projects in &#8220;IT.&#8221;</p>
<p>David&#8217;s reference to the DARPA HPCS program is very strategic in its nature.  DARPA is currently working on the follow on for the HPCS program, deemed the Ubiquitous High Performance Computing program, or UHPC.  Indeed, Cray, Sun and IBM were big players in its predecessor.  However, each prime contracting vendor had a myriad of national labs and university partners for the program.  With the exception of IBM Deep Computing, *most* vendors employ engineers skilled in the craft of taking great ideas and turning them into supportable products.  They don&#8217;t generally employ a large workforce of engineers doing pure R&amp;D.  Enter academia.  In order for these DARPA programs to be wholly successful, the vendor primes *need* the wild thinking often found in universities and national labs.</p>
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