Comments on: Amazon adds support for traditional HPC workloads with Cluster Compute instance http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/ HPC News Without the Noise for Supercomputing Professionals | insideHPC Fri, 03 May 2013 04:44:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: FJW http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/#comment-238640 FJW Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:17:51 +0000 http://insidehpc.com/?p=12520#comment-238640 John - Agreed that there are starting to be pockets of resistance to fight and bring the ISVs in line. What we need is something akin to Openfoam (www.openfoam.com) to scare the CSM folks. I'm still smarting that the Gov Drones didn't force MSC to divest a copy of the NASTRAN source BACK to the government when they were declared a monopoly. Alas... to think where we would be if all ISVs had their own "Linux" to counterpoint their "Microsoft". John – Agreed that there are starting to be pockets of resistance to fight and bring the ISVs in line. What we need is something akin to Openfoam (www.openfoam.com) to scare the CSM folks.

I’m still smarting that the Gov Drones didn’t force MSC to divest a copy of the NASTRAN source BACK to the government when they were declared a monopoly. Alas… to think where we would be if all ISVs had their own “Linux” to counterpoint their “Microsoft”.

]]> By: John West http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/#comment-238623 John West Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:03:04 +0000 http://insidehpc.com/?p=12520#comment-238623 Chris - how about lowER latency? At least they are making some progress. Chris – how about lowER latency? At least they are making some progress.

]]> By: John West http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/#comment-238622 John West Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:02:22 +0000 http://insidehpc.com/?p=12520#comment-238622 FJW - YES! Great point...the commercial software licensing model has really not caught up yet, although some progress is being made in point solutions here and there. FJW – YES! Great point…the commercial software licensing model has really not caught up yet, although some progress is being made in point solutions here and there.

]]> By: Chris Samuel http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/#comment-238573 Chris Samuel Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:51:03 +0000 http://insidehpc.com/?p=12520#comment-238573 Interconnect is just 10GigE, I'd want to see some MPI latency numbers before describing it as low latency - HPL efficiency doesn't seem that hot. Still, could be useful to some people! Interconnect is just 10GigE, I’d want to see some MPI latency numbers before describing it as low latency – HPL efficiency doesn’t seem that hot.

Still, could be useful to some people!

]]> By: Amazon EC2 Cluster Workload Management | insideHPC.com http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/#comment-238507 Amazon EC2 Cluster Workload Management | insideHPC.com Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:58:17 +0000 http://insidehpc.com/?p=12520#comment-238507 [...] posted an article earlier today about the latest service offering from Amazon’s EC2 cloud resource.  Amazon [...] [...] posted an article earlier today about the latest service offering from Amazon’s EC2 cloud resource.  Amazon [...]

]]> By: FJW http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/#comment-238504 FJW Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:36:05 +0000 http://insidehpc.com/?p=12520#comment-238504 Unless you are an academic, a Government drone or possibly an organization that only has a limited number of in house apps this will go the same route as the other "grids/clouds." The folks with the real $$$ to spend need commercial apps - EDA, CAE, Financial. Until someone breaks the stranglehold of the commercial ISVs (which do NOT like grids - dilutes the license maintenance pool) and/or standardize the license/revenue model this is a non-starter. Now if this was bundled with software as a service included in the per CPU-hour... then maybe... Love to see a panel session one of these days with ANSYS, LSTC, Simulia, MetaComp, CD-Adapco etc, and pepper these guys with questions on the cloud and the grid for enterprise customers ala Boeing, Big 3 (er 2 - Fiat doesn't count), P&G, etc. Unless you are an academic, a Government drone or possibly an organization that only has a limited number of in house apps this will go the same route as the other “grids/clouds.” The folks with the real $$$ to spend need commercial apps – EDA, CAE, Financial.

Until someone breaks the stranglehold of the commercial ISVs (which do NOT like grids – dilutes the license maintenance pool) and/or standardize the license/revenue model this is a non-starter. Now if this was bundled with software as a service included in the per CPU-hour… then maybe…

Love to see a panel session one of these days with ANSYS, LSTC, Simulia, MetaComp, CD-Adapco etc, and pepper these guys with questions on the cloud and the grid for enterprise customers ala Boeing, Big 3 (er 2 – Fiat doesn’t count), P&G, etc.

]]> By: This could be game changing for lots of users « scalability.org http://insidehpc.com/2010/07/13/amazon-adds-support-for-traditional-hpc-workloads-with-cluster-compute-instance/#comment-238397 This could be game changing for lots of users « scalability.org Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:35:39 +0000 http://insidehpc.com/?p=12520#comment-238397 [...] announced the EC2 availability for HPC users. As per the article on InsideHPC, previous incarnations of EC2 didn’t really work well for low latency jobs or [...] [...] announced the EC2 availability for HPC users. As per the article on InsideHPC, previous incarnations of EC2 didn’t really work well for low latency jobs or [...]

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