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	<title>Comments on: Inside Track: Oracle has Kicked Lustre to the Curb</title>
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		<title>By: kral</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-369124</link>
		<dc:creator>kral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeje, no realmente sorprendido por eso y en realidad no lo que falta. Nunca me gustó la idea de los sistemas de archivos SAN GPFS como sea, pero con Gluster para los casos simples (donde se fusionan puede hacer el truco) y fhgfs para HPC, yo realmente no tengo nada de qué preocuparse (y también se deshizo de las noches sin dormir muchas las LBUGs me dio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeje, no realmente sorprendido por eso y en realidad no lo que falta. Nunca me gustó la idea de los sistemas de archivos SAN GPFS como sea, pero con Gluster para los casos simples (donde se fusionan puede hacer el truco) y fhgfs para HPC, yo realmente no tengo nada de qué preocuparse (y también se deshizo de las noches sin dormir muchas las LBUGs me dio</p>
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		<title>By: Interview: DDN&#8217;s Jeff Denworth on Big Investments in Lustre &#124; insideHPC.com</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-305730</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview: DDN&#8217;s Jeff Denworth on Big Investments in Lustre &#124; insideHPC.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DDN was in the news this week with the announcement that former HP fellow Jean Luc Chatelain had joined their executive team. Now the company has disclosed that they are staffing up Lustre engineering in a big way in a move to fill the gap left by Oracle. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DDN was in the news this week with the announcement that former HP fellow Jean Luc Chatelain had joined their executive team. Now the company has disclosed that they are staffing up Lustre engineering in a big way in a move to fill the gap left by Oracle. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Gu</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-293857</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Gu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 05:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without Oracle, Lustre can develop more efficiently, wish Wharmcloud to  give all our HPCers a good and high performance Lustre, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without Oracle, Lustre can develop more efficiently, wish Wharmcloud to  give all our HPCers a good and high performance Lustre, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Riedy</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-293757</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Riedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GPFS makes some people twitchy with respect to licensing, too. The Linux version pushes the definition of derived work by digging into some interfaces. To be fair, it&#039;s a non-technical issue that no stakeholders are interested in pursuing because of the general fuzziness, but it gave GPFS a kinda strange feeling that still lurks. CXFS kinda pushes that line a bit, too.

A deep comparison between current versions of Lustre, Ceph, glusterfs, PVFS2, and the proprietary file systems (GPFS, FhGFS, etc.) would be quite useful. Add in pNFS with different back-ends (free, proprietary) for yet more options.  There certainly is no shortage of options now.

I don&#039;t have the facilities or time, but I bet it&#039;d be accepted to an academic journal or conference if someone has grad students, facilities, and enough funding lee-way...  (I also bet some organizations would be willing to pay for a white paper, but I&#039;d prefer a round of peer review.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GPFS makes some people twitchy with respect to licensing, too. The Linux version pushes the definition of derived work by digging into some interfaces. To be fair, it&#8217;s a non-technical issue that no stakeholders are interested in pursuing because of the general fuzziness, but it gave GPFS a kinda strange feeling that still lurks. CXFS kinda pushes that line a bit, too.</p>
<p>A deep comparison between current versions of Lustre, Ceph, glusterfs, PVFS2, and the proprietary file systems (GPFS, FhGFS, etc.) would be quite useful. Add in pNFS with different back-ends (free, proprietary) for yet more options.  There certainly is no shortage of options now.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the facilities or time, but I bet it&#8217;d be accepted to an academic journal or conference if someone has grad students, facilities, and enough funding lee-way&#8230;  (I also bet some organizations would be willing to pay for a white paper, but I&#8217;d prefer a round of peer review.)</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting poll on Lustre futures &#171; scalability.org</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-293751</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting poll on Lustre futures &#171; scalability.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the question is &#8220;Would you buy storage based on Lustre&#8221;, and it specifically points to Rich B&#8217;s article at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the question is &#8220;Would you buy storage based on Lustre&#8221;, and it specifically points to Rich B&#8217;s article at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Interview: Whamcloud to Foster Community Release of Lustre 2.1 &#124; insideHPC.com</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-293694</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview: Whamcloud to Foster Community Release of Lustre 2.1 &#124; insideHPC.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] next release of the Lustre file system, version 2.1. In light of the news first reported here that Oracle has ceased development of Lustre, getting the next release out has been a big concern for the Lustre [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] next release of the Lustre file system, version 2.1. In light of the news first reported here that Oracle has ceased development of Lustre, getting the next release out has been a big concern for the Lustre [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William Post</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-293691</link>
		<dc:creator>William Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression that btrfs was the way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that btrfs was the way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Josef</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-293685</link>
		<dc:creator>Josef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,
There is quite a nice alternative to Lustre  -called FhGFS. It is currently not open source but free to use and does not has all the maintenance and installation problems that come with Lustre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,<br />
There is quite a nice alternative to Lustre  -called FhGFS. It is currently not open source but free to use and does not has all the maintenance and installation problems that come with Lustre</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-293389</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, not really surprised about that and not really missing it. Never liked the idea of SAN file systems like gpfs either, but with gluster for the simple cases (where fuse can do the trick) and fhgfs for HPC, I really got nothing to worry about (and also got rid of the many sleepless nights those LBUGs gave me :) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, not really surprised about that and not really missing it. Never liked the idea of SAN file systems like gpfs either, but with gluster for the simple cases (where fuse can do the trick) and fhgfs for HPC, I really got nothing to worry about (and also got rid of the many sleepless nights those LBUGs gave me <img src='http://insidehpc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: NerdyRoom™ &#187; Lustre bei Oracle am Ende?</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-292978</link>
		<dc:creator>NerdyRoom™ &#187; Lustre bei Oracle am Ende?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] InsideHPC hat einen neuen Artikel über den Zustand der Lustre Entwicklung bei Oracle. Sieht wohl alles noch schlechter aus als vorher gedacht: [...] Lustre engineers have reportedly been encouraged to apply for other positions within the company. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] InsideHPC hat einen neuen Artikel über den Zustand der Lustre Entwicklung bei Oracle. Sieht wohl alles noch schlechter aus als vorher gedacht: [...] Lustre engineers have reportedly been encouraged to apply for other positions within the company. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Source Pixels &#187; Inside Track: Oracle has Kicked Lustre to the Curb (InsideHPC)</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-292656</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Source Pixels &#187; Inside Track: Oracle has Kicked Lustre to the Curb (InsideHPC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has received an anonymous tip that Oracle has ceased development of Lustre. &#8220;We can look forward to more Limbo for a while, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pete C</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-292561</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IBM does a great job of promoting GPFS tbf, they are also quite good at charging for it as well hence for many the interest in the open sourced lustre, gluster and Ceph filesystems remains strong.

NB there remains strong lustre support out there, both in the community and via various contracts as mentioned in the article so no lustre is not yet dead

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBM does a great job of promoting GPFS tbf, they are also quite good at charging for it as well hence for many the interest in the open sourced lustre, gluster and Ceph filesystems remains strong.</p>
<p>NB there remains strong lustre support out there, both in the community and via various contracts as mentioned in the article so no lustre is not yet dead</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Chekholko</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-292428</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Chekholko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish IBM did a better job of promoting their General Parallel File System (GPFS).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish IBM did a better job of promoting their General Parallel File System (GPFS).</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Inside Track: Oracle has Kicked Lustre to the Curb &#124; insideHPC.com -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-292408</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Inside Track: Oracle has Kicked Lustre to the Curb &#124; insideHPC.com -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by insideHPC. insideHPC said: Just in: Inside Track: Oracle has Kicked Lustre to the Curb http://bit.ly/foPp0T [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fernanda Foertter</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-292407</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernanda Foertter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just when it was getting good too!  It looked as if things were beginning to really mature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when it was getting good too!  It looked as if things were beginning to really mature.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Riedy</title>
		<link>http://insidehpc.com/2011/01/10/inside-track-oracle-has-kicked-lustre-to-the-curb/#comment-292403</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Riedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remain far, far more interested in other file systems like Ceph and glusterfs. My user-level experiences with Lustre have been less than favorable.  It *was* the only game in town.  It isn&#039;t now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remain far, far more interested in other file systems like Ceph and glusterfs. My user-level experiences with Lustre have been less than favorable.  It *was* the only game in town.  It isn&#8217;t now.</p>
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